How many of you have experienced a bird strike?

I apparently had one the other day and didn't even know it until I was
wiping the airplane down and found a tuft of feathers on the prop's leading
edge, right at the tip. No damage to the airplane and no guts splattered on
the airplane. Maybe I just winged the bird and it survived, minus a few
feathers.

Kyle
I've experienced literally hundreds of bird strikes in 40 years of ag
work. Have had several come thru the windscreen into the cockpit
including one little mallard hen that continued to fly around until I
smacked her down. Had a couple of pigeons come thru the window and I
ducked barely in time. One of them left a greasy imprint of feathers on
the side of my helmet! Got a number of pics that I shot of different
bird strikes and the resulting damage.

Share those photos with us?

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Kyle
> I've experienced literally hundreds of bird strikes in 40 years of ag
> work. Have had several come thru the windscreen into the cockpit
> including one little mallard hen that continued to fly around until I
> smacked her down. Had a couple of pigeons come thru the window and I
> ducked barely in time. One of them left a greasy imprint of feathers on
> the side of my helmet! Got a number of pics that I shot of different
> bird strikes and the resulting damage.
>

In article >,
"Kyle Boatright" > wrote:

> How many of you have experienced a bird strike?
>
> I apparently had one the other day and didn't even know it until I was
> wiping the airplane down and found a tuft of feathers on the prop's leading
> edge, right at the tip. No damage to the airplane and no guts splattered on
> the airplane. Maybe I just winged the bird and it survived, minus a few
> feathers.


Mine was insignificant for me or the plane, but was fatal to the bird. I
was getting fuel at Greenville, SC one day and the lineboy said, "do you
have seagulls where you live?" He pointed to the left main gear door,
where the remains of a small hawk were lying. I think it was a sparrow
hawk and that I must have hit it on approach.

Another time I was riding in a friend's Bonanza when, on takeoff, we
flew through a flock of pigeons at Van Nuys. No damage to the the
plane, but about a half-dozen dead pigeons.

Have hit a couple of small birds but there were two others of a larger
variety.
I was flying over Suisun Bay area in Northern California in a Bell Jet
Ranger. It was just after sundown and a rather hazy evening. Suddenly
there was a loud BAM! It sounded like someone hit the helicopter with a
baseball bat. After sucking up the seat and realizing that I was still
flying and all the instruments were showing normal, I relaxed a bit. I was
carrying a photographer in a camera mount behind me. She starts yelling on
the intercom, "EEEEWWWW!!!" Dripping down onto her leg were blood, guts and
feathers. After landing it was determined by the feathers I had hit a duck.
I few inches lower and it would have come through the windshield right in
front on me. It had hit right at the top edge of the windshield and went
right into the cowling above, putting a dent there. Fortunately it didn't
get into the rotors or tail rotor. It was just a bit messy. Sure scarred
me at first though.
The other incident invovled another big bird. Just after touching down
in a Cessna Cardinal I see a pheasant walking across the runway in front of
me. He just kept walking and I hit it with my right wheel. The county
sent someone out to retrieve the carcass. Later I was told the line guy
ended up having it for dinner. At least he didn't have buckshot to spit
out.


"Kyle Boatright" > wrote in message
...
> How many of you have experienced a bird strike?
>
> I apparently had one the other day and didn't even know it until I was
> wiping the airplane down and found a tuft of feathers on the prop's
> leading edge, right at the tip. No damage to the airplane and no guts
> splattered on the airplane. Maybe I just winged the bird and it survived,
> minus a few feathers.
>
>
>
>
>
>

"Kyle Boatright" > wrote in message
...
> How many of you have experienced a bird strike?

I've had a couple. Both were tiny birds...one barely scuffed the tire (ran
over it just as I was lifting off). The other got plastered onto the wing
after being thrown back by the prop (it flew into my flight path just after
takeoff). Both strikes occurred during takeoff, too far down the runway to
safely abort, but neither caused any significant damage to the airplane (the
one that hit the wing made a small impression).

I try my best to avoid all birds, and thankfully have not run into any
larger ones. I can't imagine having to deal with the consequences of
running into a goose, eagle, or even a hawk (we have many of all three here
in the Pacific Northwest).

Pete

Birdshot is used to shoot birds, sizes are small, common
sizes at 4,6,7-1/2, and 8 for upland birds such as quail,
larger birds such as pheasants and waterfowl need larger
sizes such as 2's. These are still half the diameter of a
BB. BB sized soft steel is used for geese. Deer are hunted
in some places with buckshot [male deer is a buck] and these
range in size from #4 Buck which is .25 inches dia. to 00
and 000 buckshot which are larger. Birdshot such as #6 will
have about 250 pellets per ounce, while #4 Buck will be
about 18 pellets and 00 buck is 9 pellets.

As far as bird strikes go, they are common during take-off
and landings because the cities seem to think land fills are
a good use for land near the airport. Birds rarely survive,
airplanes are sometimes lost. I remember seeing a Cessna
T210 that hit a goose near Liberal, KS that took out 90% of
the windshield at cruise at 17,000. The impact was on the
copilot's side and the pilot was solo. Good thing, the big
bird ripped out the windshield, broke the seat back and was
found in the tail cone.

In Tulsa about 30 years ago, a DC-10 lost two engines when
it sucked up about 10,000 starlings and made it around on
the center engine for a landing. I was a student at Spartan
at the time. The USAF spends millions of dollars every year
on birdstrikes.

Most windshields are just that, wind shields and are not
bird proof.


--
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ATP,CFI,A&P

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"Torman" > wrote in message
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| Have hit a couple of small birds but there were two
others of a larger
| variety.
| I was flying over Suisun Bay area in Northern California
in a Bell Jet
| Ranger. It was just after sundown and a rather hazy
evening. Suddenly
| there was a loud BAM! It sounded like someone hit the
helicopter with a
| baseball bat. After sucking up the seat and realizing
that I was still
| flying and all the instruments were showing normal, I
relaxed a bit. I was
| carrying a photographer in a camera mount behind me. She
starts yelling on
| the intercom, "EEEEWWWW!!!" Dripping down onto her leg
were blood, guts and
| feathers. After landing it was determined by the feathers
I had hit a duck.
| I few inches lower and it would have come through the
windshield right in
| front on me. It had hit right at the top edge of the
windshield and went
| right into the cowling above, putting a dent there.
Fortunately it didn't
| get into the rotors or tail rotor. It was just a bit
messy. Sure scarred
| me at first though.
| The other incident invovled another big bird. Just
after touching down
| in a Cessna Cardinal I see a pheasant walking across the
runway in front of
| me. He just kept walking and I hit it with my right
wheel. The county
| sent someone out to retrieve the carcass. Later I was
told the line guy
| ended up having it for dinner. At least he didn't have
buckshot to spit
| out.
|
|
| "Kyle Boatright" > wrote in
message
| ...
| > How many of you have experienced a bird strike?
| >
| > I apparently had one the other day and didn't even know
it until I was
| > wiping the airplane down and found a tuft of feathers on
the prop's
| > leading edge, right at the tip. No damage to the
airplane and no guts
| > splattered on the airplane. Maybe I just winged the bird
and it survived,
| > minus a few feathers.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|

On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 22:12:55 -0500, "Kyle Boatright"
> wrote:

>How many of you have experienced a bird strike?

PA28-180. Nighttime cruise, approx 4000 AGL, I hit a bird. It
connected with the upper few inches of the windscreen and then hit the
OAT probe, which is about 2" from the top of the windscreen.

Scared the crap out of me, and left a nice feather/blood residue to
clean, but did not damage anything.

In a previous article, "Kyle Boatright" > said:
>How many of you have experienced a bird strike?

http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/Flying/BirdStrike38290/BirdStrike_Part1.html

Fortunately I wasn't in the plane when it happened. One of the pictures
might look familiar to you - AvWeb uses it every time they run a story
about bird strikes, even though they never asked permission.


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"I don't mind your criticizing that way. It shows you are only just THOSE
kind person!" - sales@<domain deleted> takes constructive criticism well.

Yeah we havent had a bird strike in a while but we had a deer strike.
No good. People dnt realize how much damage animals can call. They get
mad if we have to hunt. But whatever, bird striks can be bad, and Id
rather not deal with one.

Chris
www.trueaviation.com

"TrueAviation" > writes:

> Yeah we havent had a bird strike in a while but we had a deer strike.
> No good. People dnt realize how much damage animals can call. They get
> mad if we have to hunt. But whatever, bird striks can be bad, and Id
> rather not deal with one.

Deer strike? Given how much damage cars experience hitting deer, and
the rather large differences between how cars and airplanes are built,
that sounds *really expensive*! (No criticism of airplane
construction intended, but they're designed with very different
constraints from cars.)
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Kyle Boatright wrote:
> How many of you have experienced a bird strike?
>
I punched a hole in the wing of the club 172 with
a turkey buzzard on Margy's first fight. Pushed
a section of the leading edge between two ribs back
to the spar.

Google for "bird strike video" and you'll see several links
to crashes filmed by jet fighters.


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"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
| "Kyle Boatright" > wrote in
message
| ...
| > How many of you have experienced a bird strike?
|
| No...two close calls, but never a hit.
|
| One went right over the cockpit about five or so feet
high.
|
| The other went under the right wing and missed by what
looked like inches.
|
| I did hit a chicken with my pickup truck once. Does that
count?
|
|
|
|

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:cONNf.109624$QW2.72510@dukeread08...
> Google for "bird strike video" and you'll see several links
> to crashes filmed by jet fighters.

How about chicken strikes?

>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> some support
> http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
> See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.
>
>
> "Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
> ...
> | "Kyle Boatright" > wrote in
> message
> | ...
> | > How many of you have experienced a bird strike?
> |
> | No...two close calls, but never a hit.
> |
> | One went right over the cockpit about five or so feet
> high.
> |
> | The other went under the right wing and missed by what
> looked like inches.
> |
> | I did hit a chicken with my pickup truck once. Does that
> count?
> |
> |
> |
> |
>
>

I understand that the Tyson chickens went out on strike.
Understand that some pilots' strike but that doesn't hurt
the airplane. If a pilot goes bowling while striking the
airline and knocks ten pins down, 12 times is that a perfect
strike strike?

But if playing baseball a strike means you miss, so does a
bird strike miss?


--
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ATP,CFI,A&P

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"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
|
| "Jim Macklin" > wrote
in message
| news:cONNf.109624$QW2.72510@dukeread08...
| > Google for "bird strike video" and you'll see several
links
| > to crashes filmed by jet fighters.
|
| How about chicken strikes?
|
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| > some support
| > http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| > See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and
duties.
| >
| >
| > "Matt Barrow" > wrote in
message
| > ...
| > | "Kyle Boatright" > wrote in
| > message
| > | ...
| > | > How many of you have experienced a bird strike?
| > |
| > | No...two close calls, but never a hit.
| > |
| > | One went right over the cockpit about five or so feet
| > high.
| > |
| > | The other went under the right wing and missed by what
| > looked like inches.
| > |
| > | I did hit a chicken with my pickup truck once. Does
that
| > count?
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

On 2006-03-02, David Dyer-Bennet > wrote:
> Deer strike?

Before my time at Houston Gulf airport (before my time altogether
really, but not before my ancient CFI's time) a Cessna 150 had a cow
strike. It apparently totaled the plane.

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"Dylan Smith" > wrote
>
> Before my time at Houston Gulf airport (before my time altogether
> really, but not before my ancient CFI's time) a Cessna 150 had a cow
> strike. It apparently totaled the plane.

Cow walked away unharmed? <g>
--
Jim in NC

> Google for "bird strike video" and you'll see several links
> to crashes filmed by jet fighters.

Here's the "best" (worst?) one (IMHO), from our website:

http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/Hawk_birdstrike.avi
--
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

> No...two close calls, but never a hit.

If we're counting close calls, I've had dozens. Our airport is right next
to the Iowa River, and is a virtual bird sanctuary at certain times of the
year.

Worse, the beautiful bald eagle has made a huge come-back in Iowa, and they
are thick as flies all the sudden. Those danged things are almost as big as
we are!
--
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:JCYNf.833066$xm3.717104@attbi_s21...
>> No...two close calls, but never a hit.
>
> If we're counting close calls, I've had dozens. Our airport is right
> next to the Iowa River, and is a virtual bird sanctuary at certain times
> of the year.
>
> Worse, the beautiful bald eagle has made a huge come-back in Iowa, and
> they are thick as flies all the sudden. Those danged things are almost as
> big as we are!

They are truly spectacular.

I recall a thread in here some time ago sating that they've seen birds in
the FL altitudes, but I saw one bald eagle when flying at 16,500 and he was
above me (fortunately way off to the right).

OTOH, most flying here is 12K and up so our bird traffic is decidedly less
than you folks get.


--
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---------------------
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Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"Dylan Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2006-03-02, David Dyer-Bennet > wrote:
>> Deer strike?
>
> Before my time at Houston Gulf airport (before my time altogether
> really, but not before my ancient CFI's time) a Cessna 150 had a cow
> strike. It apparently totaled the plane.
>

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20031010X01711&key=1

I've heard of alligators on runways, guess they are soaking
up the heat from the warm concrete.
So you can hit a gator on the water with a seaplane or on
land, probably at night.

There is an airport located just east southeast of Wichita
Mid-Continent, known locally as Dead Cow International.



"Dylan Smith" > wrote in message
...
| On 2006-03-02, David Dyer-Bennet > wrote:
| > Deer strike?
|
| Before my time at Houston Gulf airport (before my time
altogether
| really, but not before my ancient CFI's time) a Cessna 150
had a cow
| strike. It apparently totaled the plane.
|
| --
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| Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
| Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute:
http://oolite-linux.berlios.de
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All airports should encourage hunters with shotguns, would
keep birds away and maybe some other evils, too.


"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:6BYNf.590117$084.557707@attbi_s22...
|> Google for "bird strike video" and you'll see several
links
| > to crashes filmed by jet fighters.
|
| Here's the "best" (worst?) one (IMHO), from our website:
|
|
http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/Hawk_birdstrike.avi
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|
|
|

"Jim Macklin" > wrote

> There is an airport located just east southeast of Wichita
> Mid-Continent, known locally as Dead Cow International.

That is because it is right next to a slaughter-yard, no?
--
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"Dylan Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2006-03-02, David Dyer-Bennet > wrote:
>> Deer strike?
>
> Before my time at Houston Gulf airport (before my time altogether
> really, but not before my ancient CFI's time) a Cessna 150 had a cow
> strike. It apparently totaled the plane.
>
> --
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> Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
> Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute: http://oolite-linux.berlios.de
> Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net

While browsing NTSB reports on Piper Tomahawks ( I used to own one), I came
across a report of an accident where the aircraft had a forced landing in a
pasture. The pilot reported something like "It was a nice landing, with no
obstructions until a cow DARTED out in front of me." Needless to say, the
aircraft was destroyed or severely damaged, IIRC.

KB

> All airports should encourage hunters with shotguns, would
> keep birds away and maybe some other evils, too.

Depends on the hunters. Airplanes are also prey.

Jose
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No, the airport official name is Westport, it is called Dead
Cow International because it is very close to ICT, which is
international (customs on the field) and they killed a cow
many years ago on the runway. Sort of an inside joke.


"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
|
| "Jim Macklin" > wrote
|
| > There is an airport located just east southeast of
Wichita
| > Mid-Continent, known locally as Dead Cow International.
|
| That is because it is right next to a slaughter-yard, no?
| --
| Jim in NC

cow dart?


"Kyle Boatright" > wrote in message
...
|
| "Dylan Smith" > wrote in message
| ...
| > On 2006-03-02, David Dyer-Bennet > wrote:
| >> Deer strike?
| >
| > Before my time at Houston Gulf airport (before my time
altogether
| > really, but not before my ancient CFI's time) a Cessna
150 had a cow
| > strike. It apparently totaled the plane.
| >
| > --
| > Dylan Smith, Port St Mary, Isle of Man
| > Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
| > Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute:
http://oolite-linux.berlios.de
| > Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
|
| While browsing NTSB reports on Piper Tomahawks ( I used to
own one), I came
| across a report of an accident where the aircraft had a
forced landing in a
| pasture. The pilot reported something like "It was a nice
landing, with no
| obstructions until a cow DARTED out in front of me."
Needless to say, the
| aircraft was destroyed or severely damaged, IIRC.
|
| KB
|
|

Airplanes are not prey, but they can be targets. Back in my
hometown, Springfield, IL, the National Guard rifle range,
Camp Lincoln [dates from the Civil War period] is just a
mile south of the airport. The Guardsmen, from Chicago's
unit, were seen to be shooting at the airplanes in the
pattern. The fix for this was to close the range to
civilians who would be witnesses. This was in the time of
the draft and Viet Nam, I suppose the troops are better
trained and supervised today.


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"Jose" > wrote in message
et...
|> All airports should encourage hunters with shotguns,
would
| > keep birds away and maybe some other evils, too.
|
| Depends on the hunters. Airplanes are also prey.
|
| Jose
| --
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Morgans wrote:

>
> "Dylan Smith" > wrote
>>
>> Before my time at Houston Gulf airport (before my time altogether
>> really, but not before my ancient CFI's time) a Cessna 150 had a cow
>> strike. It apparently totaled the plane.
>
> Cow walked away unharmed? <g>

Here in Oz we have bird, roo, pig, sheep, cow etc strike on a regular basis
but other places are worse the wildlife get you on preflight:

http://www.micom.net/oops/African%20preflight.jpg


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